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			 by gstark on Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:22 am
 Ok ....
 Click through for the full size image. It's big, and I apologise for that, but I'm sure that y'all want to see this. 
 From yesterday's launch, here is one image that Leigh shot that I found impressive. ISO 6400, lens used is the new 14-24 f/2.8, 1/250 @ f/2.8, AWB, no sharpening, no noise reduction. This is straight from the camera. 
   Well done, Nikon.
 Leigh will be posting some more later, as he gets time.g.Gary Stark
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 by losfp on Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:36 am
 Holy frickin' Jesus on a tricycle, Gary.  That's cleaner than my D200 at 3200, considerably so!!  And what noise there is, is much more pleasing, closer to grain than colour noise.
 Wedding shooters are going to love this camera.
 
			
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 by gstark on Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:41 am
 Des,
 Yes.    And, out of the camera, it's sharp too. Note that this was shot at 24mm at f/2.8 with the new 14-24; I'm confident that this is not going to be the sweet spot for this lens, so this is truly going to be a significant improvement for all shooters who are able to grab one.g.Gary Stark
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 by Grev on Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:46 am
 I'm glad the time has come for this. 
			
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 by Alpha_7 on Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:58 am
 Thanks for posting this... I'm just it will get some pixel peepers drooling. 
			
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 by Cre8tivepixels on Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:37 am
 Drool ..........lol 
			
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 by shutterbug on Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:19 am
 
			
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 by shutterbug on Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:21 am
 Anymore samples Gary ? 
			
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 by blacknstormy on Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:54 am
 
			
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 by Old Bob on Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:50 am
 Holy Smoke, that's amazing. I may have to dip into my retirement fund     .
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 by Oz_Beachside on Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:41 pm
 im not sure about everyone else, but I find that black thing (200 flash?) a bit distracting from the intensity of character exhibited by the colourful arrangement of aunty marge's kniting basket...   
			
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 by gstark on Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:44 pm
 shutterbug wrote:Anymore samples Gary ?
 Vince,
 These are Leigh's images, and while I've taken copies from his CF card, I think it's appropriate that he posts whatever he feels is appropriate. 
 He did give me permission to post this one, and I selected this because I think its a great example of what we're looking to see from these images.
 But he's got lots of other stuff to go through from the day, and I think it's best to be patient and wait to permit him to tell his story.g.Gary Stark
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 by Nnnnsic on Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:00 pm
 I'm on my lunch break at the moment. I'm waiting till I get home but I need to label them by hand as EXIF didn't write ISO data when it was using a HI or LO setting so to show you items like 25,600 and whatnot, I'd like to label them first.
 I did run one of the JPEG's from 25,600 through one of my custom BW settings and yeah... brilliant.
 
 So later on tonight hopefully. I still think the studio setup was stupid, to be honest.
 
			
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 by shutterbug on Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:20 pm
 gstark wrote:shutterbug wrote:Anymore samples Gary ?
 Vince, These are Leigh's images, and while I've taken copies from his CF card, I think it's appropriate that he posts whatever he feels is appropriate.  He did give me permission to post this one, and I selected this because I think its a great example of what we're looking to see from these images. But he's got lots of other stuff to go through from the day, and I think it's best to be patient and wait to permit him to tell his story.
 No problems Gary...I am very patient    
			
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 by losfp on Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:42 pm
 Nnnnsic wrote:So later on tonight hopefully. I still think the studio setup was stupid, to be honest.
 What better way to showcase the camera's capabilities than to throw it ludicrous conditions?   
			
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 by chrisk on Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:39 pm
 losfp wrote:Holy frickin' Jesus on a tricycle, Gary.  That's cleaner than my D200 at 3200.
 lol 3200 ? thats ambitious to say the least. it looks better than a d200 at more like iso 800.EM1 l 7.5 l 12-40  l  14 l 17 l 25 l  45 l 60 l 75 l AW1 l V3  
			
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 by Thommo on Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:31 pm
 Rooz wrote:losfp wrote:Holy frickin' Jesus on a tricycle, Gary.  That's cleaner than my D200 at 3200.
 lol 3200 ? thats ambitious to say the least. it looks better than a d200 at more like iso 800.
 thats exactly what i was thinking, 800 is the manageable level of noise in the d200 for me. 
			
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 by losfp on Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:09 pm
 To be fair, I have gotten some very usable results at ISO 1100, 1200, even 1600 on my D200, providing the exposure is spot on etc.  Perhaps a rephrase is appropriate here?
 “It looks cleaner in atrocious conditions at 6400 than my D200’s best results at 1600”
 In any case, I'm not really WRONG, just really conservative   
			
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 by marc on Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:37 pm
 Any D300 Hi ISO images Leigh?   D4|D3S|D700+MB-D10| 14-24 |24-70|70-200 f/2.8 VRII|70-200 f/4 VR|80-400 AF-S|500VR|Sigma 150 f/2.8 macro|TC's 1.4,1.7E & 2.0III|SB 900   
			
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 by gstark on Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:40 pm
 marc wrote:Any D300 Hi ISO images Leigh?
 Nnnnsic wrote:I'm on my lunch break at the moment. I'm waiting till I get home but I need to label them by hand as EXIF didn't write ISO data when it was using a HI or LO setting so to show you items like 25,600 and whatnot, I'd like to label them first.
 I did run one of the JPEG's from 25,600 through one of my custom BW settings and yeah... brilliant.
 
 So later on tonight hopefully. I still think the studio setup was stupid, to be honest.
 So, I suspect that your question was answered prior to it being asked.  g.Gary Stark
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 by marc on Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:07 pm
 I thought my question appropriate Gary, as I believe he was referring to the D3    .............but, hey, let's not nitpic at such a joyous occasion       D4|D3S|D700+MB-D10| 14-24 |24-70|70-200 f/2.8 VRII|70-200 f/4 VR|80-400 AF-S|500VR|Sigma 150 f/2.8 macro|TC's 1.4,1.7E & 2.0III|SB 900   
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:01 pm
 Marc, yup. In fact, due to the pointless setup Nikon had for us, using high ISO was pretty much a requirement. 
			
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 by gstark on Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:04 pm
 Just downloaded and installed ViewNX onto the Mac.
 Some aspects are painfully slow (I probably need to add memory) but we can now read and convert from NEF, and we can also now see the missing ISO information.
 And there's a new Picture Control Utility that looks to be somewhat useful: this lets you use a sample image as a starting point, and you can extract the settings and use those settings for other images. Sort of like uploading a custom curve to the D70, but better ..... you can store these settings on your CF card, for instance. Multiple instances of them.  g.Gary Stark
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 by Smurph on Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:25 am
 Holy freakin' Jesus! They are so clean, and like someone else has said, what little noise there is, is a lot closer to grain than noise.
 I think this will get those Canon users quivering, lol.
 
			
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 by photograham on Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:28 pm
 I have a bad case of NAS.  This is well known international disease.  (Nikon Acquisition Syndrome)  I just gone back to work, part time, to help pay for a new D3, plus lenses.
I am patient, and wait on Poon's prices.
 
			
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 by Technik on Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:22 pm
 very impressive.. D70s/D200; Tokina 16-50mm 2.8; 18-70DX ; 50mm 1.8 ; 80-200mm 2.8D ; SB600 + Stofen Omini Bouncer 
			
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 by broadbean on Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:41 pm
 I need a bigger monitor... 
			
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 by Matt. K on Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:38 pm
 The image looks a little 'wooly' to me.  Regards
 Matt. K
 
			
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 by Viz on Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:16 pm
 Great stuff - they managed to make the noise look almost attractive and desirable as an optional effect. Can you divulge any thoughts on the lens? It has to be a smoking hot package for wides with the D3. 
			
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