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As stock of D2x is out I am totally interested.

A few upgrades but nothing "radically" different. The price might be as far out of reach as I initially expected.

Nope. Not interested at all.

At all.

All.

Not.

Interested.

People only go for this D2Xs if they can put their hand on the D2x.
If people already have the D2X, then please wait for the D3, not too far away, and this is "buying time" strategies from Nikon
And it ain't cheap.
D2Xs, When will it available? end of unknown year

Thank god it's here!!!!

Now maybe the price of a D2x will drop by $3000 and I can almost afford one

Raskill wrote:Thank god it's here!!!!

Now maybe the price of a D2x will drop by $3000 and I can almost afford one

I thought that the D2x was totally out of stock??

seems like a waste of nikons R & D time if you ask me

J

Raskill wrote:Thank god it's here!!!!

Now maybe the price of a D2x will drop by $3000 and I can almost afford one

Raskill,
It was dropped and gone, not at AU$3000.00 but could not find another batch or becoming rare.
Who's the lucky buggers got the special deal in the last two weeks? Congrats to all of them.

jdear wrote:seems like a waste of nikons R & D time if you ask me

J

Not really! Stay tuned for the next development

That's not exactly an impressive upgrade.

With the capabilities of that sensor, they could have done a lot more for an "upgrade" in my opinion.

That said, I like this option I read:
D2Xs settings can be saved and loaded within the camera

That could be quite nifty.

Nnnnsic wrote:That's not exactly an impressive upgrade.

With the capabilities of that sensor, they could have done a lot more for an "upgrade" in my opinion.

That said, I like this option I read:
D2Xs settings can be saved and loaded within the camera

That could be quite nifty.

It's garbage! as I mentioned on another thread from anubis:
"20 improved or new features"
Who need them?
Once again, to all the recently new owners of the D2X, you've done well and scored a top bargain of the year.

Well, I like the concept of the masking system used for the hi-speed crop mode.. and the vaguely described "improvements" to focus tracking etc.. But still really just a minor upgrade than a new revision. As Birdy said, it's just a strategy to buy time until they can get the D3 out.

Well that's a relief!! Nothing in there that makes me feel less satisfied with my D2X

A lot of the features look like they are firmware updates. I wonder if we can expect one for the D2X or if Nikon will not offer it so as to try and make current users update.

Things like

'more steps between Hi-1 and Hi-2'
'Sensor cleaning without AC adaptor'

and a few others would be cool to have in a firmware update.

Paul

'Sensor cleaning without AC adaptor'

We didn't need the AC adapter for years now. Who cares?

the ability to save camera settings for different situations make this upgrade enticng but that feature has been present on the nikon coolpix series

if the sensor had been upgraded to 24 pixel that would be a significant upgrade

wendellt wrote:the ability to save camera settings for different situations make this upgrade enticng but that feature has been present on the nikon coolpix series

if the sensor had been upgraded to 24 pixel that would be a significant upgrade

I think that even if Nikon DID have a 24MP sensor, they'd be sitting on it until the D3 is out.

This seems to be very similar to the small minor upgrades like the D70-D70s etc. People buying new are happy to be getting a "newer model", but existing owners won't bother upgrading.

OK, that does it My 10 month old D2x is obsolete now........

So in order to help fellow members on the forum I willing to sell mine for a one time price of $7,000

Bidding starts now...ends when D2xs is available on shelf

losfp wrote:

wendellt wrote:the ability to save camera settings for different situations make this upgrade enticng but that feature has been present on the nikon coolpix series

if the sensor had been upgraded to 24 pixel that would be a significant upgrade

I think that even if Nikon DID have a 24MP sensor, they'd be sitting on it until the D3 is out.

This seems to be very similar to the small minor upgrades like the D70-D70s etc. People buying new are happy to be getting a "newer model", but existing owners won't bother upgrading.

Des, I said this before:

D70 ------> D70s
D2H -------> D2Hs
D2X --------> D2Xs

and finally will be soon
D200 --------> D200s

It should be interesting to see if the D2X owners get a firmware update somewhere in the future to bring their cameras more into line with the D2Xs. At a glance it appears that the D2Xs gets a few minor (relative to a major design change) hardware and a lot of firmware improvements.

Cheers

MattC wrote:It should be interesting to see if the D2X owners get a firmware update somewhere in the future to bring their cameras more into line with the D2Xs. At a glance it appears that the D2Xs gets a few minor (relative to a major design change) hardware and a lot of firmware improvements.

Cheers

Nikon will have a need in taking care of their Pro Body/Flagship customers...typically a firmware upgrade will not bring the D2x up to the "s" stage but business you would not do so until all stock was gone

LostDingo wrote:

MattC wrote:It should be interesting to see if the D2X owners get a firmware update somewhere in the future to bring their cameras more into line with the D2Xs. At a glance it appears that the D2Xs gets a few minor (relative to a major design change) hardware and a lot of firmware improvements.

Cheers

Nikon will have a need in taking care of their Pro Body/Flagship customers...typically a firmware upgrade will not bring the D2x up to the "s" stage but business you would not do so until all stock was gone

Granted. Perhaps I worded that a little loosley. Maybe sometime after the release of the D2Xs... In a similar vein to the improvements in the D70 firmware v2.
Nikon did also make some improvements to one of the D1 models (I cannot remember which) through firmware some time back, so the possibility of something similar for the D2X may not be entirely out of the question.

Cheers

MattC wrote:

LostDingo wrote:

MattC wrote:It should be interesting to see if the D2X owners get a firmware update somewhere in the future to bring their cameras more into line with the D2Xs. At a glance it appears that the D2Xs gets a few minor (relative to a major design change) hardware and a lot of firmware improvements.

Cheers

Nikon will have a need in taking care of their Pro Body/Flagship customers...typically a firmware upgrade will not bring the D2x up to the "s" stage but business you would not do so until all stock was gone

Granted. Perhaps I worded that a little loosley. Maybe sometime after the release of the D2Xs... In a similar vein to the improvements in the D70 firmware v2.
Nikon did also make some improvements to one of the D1 models (I cannot remember which) through firmware some time back, so the possibility of something similar for the D2X may not be entirely out of the question.

Cheers

yep, that was the D1x...not long before the D2

seems a bunch of so-what to me also.

Steve

I cant see the point of so little changes, who would rush out to buy a D2XS for the sake of the veiwfinder being different. Not me, but yeh if u didnt have one then price was not a lot of dif, why would you?

The most intersting part for me is the EN-EL4a battery. Not that the old battery was at all bad.

for those interested in seeing the specs of the D2x and D2xs comparison here is a link:

http://nikonimaging.com/global/products/digitalcamera/slr/d2xs/index.htm

The greyed crop area is interesting but there appears to be achange in the buffer on continuos shooting.....won't help me much with my 4 minute exposures

Not a great deal of changes but changes none the less....

awww...the good ole days of film cameras and slower changes...and 1/3 the cost

If the upgrades were radically different (eg. new sensor etc) then it wouldn't be called a D2Xs, it'd be a new model.

The D2Xs is a refinement of the D2X - after the D2X has been out in the field, they've probably had feedback on what works well, what minor tweaks can be improved - thus the refinement to make an already great camera slightly better. Some of those improvements might seem very minor on paper - but out in the field, they can be quite useful (eg. configurable delay period for focus lock; easier HSC framing etc etc)

The D2Xs won't play a major role at this moment in Nikon game.
And it won't be there long.
Most Pro shooters with Nikon, they all had the D2x long ago.

Do they need upgrade? NO
Does the D2Xs bring more benefits to them? NO

What they want to see:

New model and heaps of improvements
More MP
Perhaps FF
Less noise or no noise w/ high ISO
And less premium.

So the new D2Xs is for the pro starter or someone, who has money but didn't have the D2x before.

Not much of good respond and demand as the D2X when it first came out and will be the same story as of the D2H --------> D2Hs.

And another factor, the D200 will bring lot of happy to the shooters once its supplies becoming available as normal.

Why should D2X owner upgrade to D2Xs?

I saw a D100 for sale - new(!) - in Hardly Normal this afternoon. For something like $2800.

They have got to be kidding.

gstark wrote:I saw a D100 for sale - new(!) - in Hardly Normal this afternoon. For something like $2800.

They have got to be kidding.

They don't make money they sell at loss

gstark wrote:I saw a D100 for sale - new(!) - in Hardly Normal this afternoon. For something like $2800.

They have got to be kidding.

The salesmen will be salesmen and some poor sod will buy it thinking that it is the latest and greatest and that they are getting it at the best price.

Cheers

MattC wrote:

gstark wrote:I saw a D100 for sale - new(!) - in Hardly Normal this afternoon. For something like $2800.

They have got to be kidding.

The salesmen will be salesmen and some poor sod will buy it thinking that it is the latest and greatest and that they are getting it at the best price.

Cheers

Especially with the term: Interest Free for 36 months or no repaymnet till 2008

Thom Hogan reckons most of the changes will become available for the D2X as a firmware upgrade September - December:
http://www.bythom.com/index.htm
"... Nikon has indicated that all of the other non-hardware features will be made available to D2x users in a firmware upgrade this fall."

How much credence you give Thom is up to you - on past performance I'd guess he's probably right on this one.


As others said: the D2xs isn't an upgrade for D2x owners.
It's there for people who are moving into heavy gear (eg from a D70), or for those who were about to upgrade their existing old (D1-, F5, F4 but *not* D2-) heavy gear anyway.
For those folk- hooray! For everyone else - meh.

Keith

Re: firmware upgrade, he's not the only one -

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=18673879

The best upgrade of these 3 cameras:

D70 - D70s
D2H - D2Hs
D2X - D2Xs

Would have to be the D2H to D2Hs, a major improvement in ISO
Which is why I waited and very glad I did.

Cheers
Marc

Aw heck... the worst part of the upgrade is that they've used a smaller font for the 's' designator...
Product image here

Don't Nikon realise how hard it is to type D2XS?

Fair dink, I'm switching to Canon

Keith

marc wrote:The best upgrade of these 3 cameras:

D70 - D70s
D2H - D2Hs
D2X - D2Xs

Would have to be the D2H to D2Hs, a major improvement in ISO
Which is why I waited and very glad I did.

Cheers
Marc

I’m with you Marc - a fantastic camera

As far as I can see from Rob's article:

The bad news: it still doesn't play GBA games (there's no excuse for that)

The good news: the new battery (+30% capacity) fits the D2H

Cheers
Steffen.

Steffen wrote:The bad news: it still doesn't play GBA games (there's no excuse for that)

Bah! If it doesn't play DS games, it's useless!

antman wrote:Re: firmware upgrade, he's not the only one -

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=18673879

another one here, quite official - with actual list of firmware improvements:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-7895-8372

I'm waiting for the price drop of the D200.

This isn't that exciting news for me really. Unless I win the lotto or something.