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First attempt to guide the model how to pose.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:42 pm
by yeocsa
We had a good time. While it may be Alex's first time at outdoor portrait, it is my first attempt to guide the model in posing.

http://imageheap.com/main/pic.php?u=125iIZht&i=781

http://imageheap.com/main/pic.php?u=125iIZht&i=782

Canon 20D, Tamron 28-75 f2.8 and 550EX Flash.

I forgot to set the camera to raw. So all my shots are in jpeg, small size.

All comments are welcome. thanks.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 8:50 pm
by Zeeke
Nice sharp pictures.. but the poses dont look natural.. somehow.. funny ... nice tones

Tim

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:03 pm
by sheepie
First, a note of warning - I have not done this sort of thing before, and would probably be totally useless. That said, I can form an opinion of others' work without too much practice ;)

I really like the second one - has a lot going for it. I think, to me at least, the contrast in colour from left to right works - it certainly doesn't take anything away from the image. There appears to be deep thought, perhaps about something pleasurable. I think, if you instructed her in getting to this pose, you have done well :)

The first one, however, does not do it for me - I'm with Zeeke, this appears too posed for my liking. The framing appears all wrong, and I am left wondering whether you intended the tree behind her to be a subject.

Sorry to be a bit negative, but these two pictures are like chalk and cheese. Anyway, I hope my comments help in some small way (and when I finally get the nerve to try this area of photography, feel free to come down hard on me!).

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:45 pm
by sirhc55
Arthur - I really like the pose in #2. The colour is great and the look on the models face says something to me :)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:59 pm
by Matt. K
Second image is nice and natural...a good pose and a good model.

Hi

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:48 am
by yeocsa
Dear all,

Thanks. All your comments are very helpful. The poses were imitated from magazine cut outs that i used to show the model.

After some thoughts from all your inputs, the first one did not work out as intended due to the bench and background. The image will need cropping to improve. It does not look natural because that pose would not be comfortable or "normal" for a person sitting on such a bench.

However, some elements involving in posing is still applicable... such as "C" or "S" body curve, elbow, shoulder and fingers pointing away from the viewer.

For the second one, i had asked the model to think of something she likes ... such as ice cream, happy incident, etc. I would want to try more different moods next time.

Thanks again. I appreciate all your feekbacks.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:57 am
by Alex
Arthur,

I also love # 2. Great capture. Thank you very much for turning up, guiding Alisa and most importantly teaching me heaps. I will post my versions later tonight, I hope. I'm only half way through my shots though.

Thanks
Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:35 pm
by barry
Contrary to the others I like like No. 1. A nice crisp clean shot.

Barry

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:10 pm
by yeocsa
Alex wrote:Arthur,

I also love # 2. Great capture. Thank you very much for turning up, guiding Alisa and most importantly teaching me heaps. I will post my versions later tonight, I hope. I'm only half way through my shots though.

Thanks
Alex


Look forward to seeing them. You picked up the pointers very well, my friend. The 50mm f1.4 is indeed a superb lens.

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:19 pm
by PiroStitch
I like the 2nd photo better Arthur except parts of her face is a little OOF.

Bleh where's my invite Alex :P :P j/k mate. Can't wait to see your pics.

Hi

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:24 pm
by yeocsa
That's true. a f5.6 may be better.

Here's the crop of the 1st pic.

Image

regards,

Arthur

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:32 pm
by Alex
PiroStitch wrote:I like the 2nd photo better Arthur except parts of her face is a little OOF.

Bleh where's my invite Alex :P :P j/k mate. Can't wait to see your pics.


Hey Wayne,

Sorry mate, I was going to, but you were never online :-( May be next time, eh? Will post mine soon.

Alex

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:13 pm
by marcotrov
Arthur #2 is lovely. It is more natural and you have used the models arms and shoulder to help frame her beautiful face. It helps draw attention to her expression. The crop of your first one is better but hand and fingers are positioned a little aukwardly not really adding to the image. Skin tones and exposure both great. :)
cheers
marco

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:41 am
by Alex
yeocsa wrote:
Alex wrote:Arthur,

I also love # 2. Great capture. Thank you very much for turning up, guiding Alisa and most importantly teaching me heaps. I will post my versions later tonight, I hope. I'm only half way through my shots though.

Thanks
Alex


Look forward to seeing them. You picked up the pointers very well, my friend. The 50mm f1.4 is indeed a superb lens.

regards,

Arthur


Arthur, I can't believe how much MF is better with that lens than AF. Thanks for pointing this out. Is it normal or AF is wrong on my camera?

Alex

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:21 am
by ozimax
I like #1, it is a happy portrait, and I do like the crop as well. There are heaps of posing guides out there in www land, maybe they are helpful? I think some can be downloaded (for a fee).

Max

Hi

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:43 am
by yeocsa
Alex wrote:
yeocsa wrote:
Alex wrote:Arthur,

I also love # 2. Great capture. Thank you very much for turning up, guiding Alisa and most importantly teaching me heaps. I will post my versions later tonight, I hope. I'm only half way through my shots though.

Thanks
Alex


Look forward to seeing them. You picked up the pointers very well, my friend. The 50mm f1.4 is indeed a superb lens.

regards,

Arthur


Arthur, I can't believe how much MF is better with that lens than AF. Thanks for pointing this out. Is it normal or AF is wrong on my camera?

Alex


Dear Alex,

The D70 centre AF sensor is rather big - as such it makes focusing on small area of the picture difficult e.g just the eyes. There's nothing wrong with the camera. However, better trust your eyes than the camera's AF.

regards,

Arthur

Hi

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:02 am
by yeocsa
Hi

Thanks to all for your feedback. It has been a good learning experience.



regards,

Arthur