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 by gstark on Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:25 pm
 xerubus wrote:very true.... ... which brings up another point (must be the red wine).... why bother registering if you are not going to be part of the community? i'll stop now...   
 That's a good question, and one I ponder over nightly.
 Er, weekly.
 Er, weakly ....g.Gary Stark
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 by gstark on Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:31 pm
 MHD wrote:Cause its easy...Becuase lots of people have one question to ask then  move on...
 
 Gary etal: how many Members are there?
 As I write this, 1046, and that's not counting the knwon dupes. 1040 would be pretty close to the mark. 
 But about 1/3 of them have never bothered to even say "boo". 
 That doesn't bother me; I'd rather have a smaller community of higher quality members than a large membership that's a bunch of angry, fighting wannabees.
 As it stands, when we started planning the AW, we were expecting to have a membership of around 800; that we kicked past 1000 a week or so ago is incredible, and Leigh actually asked the question over the weekend as to whether we might even hit 1100 by the AW. 
 I have to accept that as a very real possibility right now ...
 And we have about 175 in the Members' users group. That's more than 30 posts, etc, and have asked me to join the group. There's more that have achieved the posting criteria, but the've not yet asked ...Last edited by gstark  on Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
					
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 by phillipb on Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:33 pm
    Hey Scott, If I was to put in a really lousy photo like pure black all over and nobody voted for it except me and i gave myself top mark, does that mean I would win the comp for sure?   __________Phillip
 
 
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 by kinetic on Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:34 pm
 Hi all,
 As a very new member, I might be able to shed some light on this...
 For starters, I'm too new/inexperienced/thick to take a descent shot for this competition     But I also don't have a d70 as yet - and as the comp required that the picture be taken with a d70, I couldn't have entered even if I had lots of posts, experiece etc.
 I'd been browsing this forum for tips for ages as a "guest" but I thought that it was time I became a member so that I could contribute when I had something useful to say.  I'd say there's probably a few people out there in the same boat as me.
 Cause its easy... Becuase lots of people have one question to ask then move on...
 
 Sadly, this is probably pretty accurate as well.      Not quite sure why people sign up for stuff for a couple of weeks and then move on......    Anyway, just my 1.5 cents worth!
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:25 pm
 So if we have 130 or so full members, then about a third of them/us posted an image for the comp? I guess that's not too bad really.
 I do think it has a lot to do with confidence and just not being able to think of anything that fits the theme. I know I struggled to find anything for this one, and I didn't enter the last comp because I couldn't find anything that worked well enough for me that I thought it would be worth entering.
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 by MHD on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:29 pm
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 by stubbsy on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:30 pm
 Dean.  You've got ot be in it to win it.  Ask yourself this.  Are there any pics in there you think you have better ones of or could take? 
			
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:46 pm
 I'm in it. 
 Just sayin'
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 by stubbsy on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:49 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:I'm in it. 
 Just sayin'
 Sorry Dean, misunderstood.  Yours must be one of dud ones my masterpiece will stomp on (in my dreams    )     
			
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 by stubbsy on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:52 pm
 Just went bakc and tweaked my votes. Its interesting what a return viewing can do - bumped a few up, but largely result was to bump some down having reflected more on the theme.
 On the question of submitting - I personally find these very difficult and, while it would be nice to win, have no expectations in that regard .  The real joy for me is that the challenge forces me to think outside my photographic square and that's more than enough reason for the existence of the comp IMHO.
 
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:54 pm
 kinetic wrote:But I also don't have a d70 as yet - and as the comp required that the picture be taken with a d70, I couldn't have entered even if I had lots of posts, experiece etc.
 You could've had a D50, a D70, a D70s, or I think a D100 to enter...
 But depending on where you are, especially if you're in Sydney, getting a decisive moment at a mini-meet or another event where people are using their cameras at is always an alternative. 
			
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 by kinetic on Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:58 pm
 Nnnnsic wrote:kinetic wrote:But I also don't have a d70 as yet - and as the comp required that the picture be taken with a d70, I couldn't have entered even if I had lots of posts, experiece etc.
 You could've had a D50, a D70, a D70s, or I think a D100 to enter... But depending on where you are, especially if you're in Sydney, getting a decisive moment at a mini-meet or another event where people are using their cameras at is always an alternative.
 Hey - good point    .
 Please don't get me wrong here, I wasn't complaining about the entry conditions at all, like I said, I'm new to this forum and on an extremely steep learning curve    , I was just wondering whether it might explain why some registered members  who have been around a lot longer than me did not submit pics. ??
 Anyway, it's good fun to sit back and watch the action!      Good luck for the comp everyone!! 
			
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 by stubbsy on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:00 pm
 KInetic.  Remember that anyone can vote and if you haven't done so I urge you to register and do so. 
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:02 pm
 Well, submitting a pic in the competition is one thing.
 However, submitting a pic in the "Images Reviews" section can be something anyone can do... whether it be a Nikon, Canon, Sony, Ricoh, etc... any camera there.
 
 I'm still not sure why you'd join up if you really have nothing to say... I mean, if it's going to be "I'll join up because I might say something later," fine... but why not just sign up then?!
 
			
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 by Heath Bennett on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:05 pm
 Nnnnsic wrote:getting a decisive moment at a mini-meet or another event where people are using their cameras at is always an alternative.
 I thought the entries to the competition was supposed to be confidential?HB 
			
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 by kinetic on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:06 pm
 Nnnnsic wrote:However, submitting a pic in the "Images Reviews" section can be something anyone can do... whether it be a Nikon, Canon, Sony, Ricoh, etc... any camera there.
 I'm still not sure why you'd join up if you really have nothing to say... I mean, if it's going to be "I'll join up because I might say something later," fine... but why not just sign up then?!
 I have submitted a pic to the "Image Reviews" forum.
 (Post entitled "Um, here goes...")
 I don't know why you'd register to say nothing either. 
			
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 by Alex on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:12 pm
 Heath Bennett wrote:Nnnnsic wrote:getting a decisive moment at a mini-meet or another event where people are using their cameras at is always an alternative.
 I thought the entries to the competition was supposed to be confidential?
 Yes, well I can see at least one photo there with a file name revealing directly the name of the participant.
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:17 pm
 Alex wrote:Yes, well I can see at least one photo there with a file name revealing directly the name of the participant.
 Alex
 Or can you see one photo with the name of the subject  in the filename?
 If it's the one I think you're refering to.PlatinumWeaver / Dean
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 by Heath Bennett on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:24 pm
 Well I was under the impression that you aren't supposed to be able to guess (within reason) whos is whos. Otherwise it could become a popularity contest. HB 
			
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 by Alex on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:27 pm
 [/quote]
 Or can you see one photo with the name of the subject in the filename?
 
 If it's the one I think you're refering to.[/quote]
 
 Dean, you could be dead right about this, I didn't look at it that way!
 
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:28 pm
 Alex wrote:Or can you see one photo with the name of the subject in the filename?
 
 If it's the one I think you're refering to.
 Dean, you could be dead right about this, I didn't look at it that way! Alex
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 by MHD on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:33 pm
 Alex wrote:Heath Bennett wrote:Nnnnsic wrote:getting a decisive moment at a mini-meet or another event where people are using their cameras at is always an alternative.
 I thought the entries to the competition was supposed to be confidential?
 Yes, well I can see at least one photo there with a file name revealing directly the name of the participant. Alex
 actually it does not.... 
			
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 by Alex on Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:48 pm
 [/quote]
 actually it does not....[/quote]
 
 Good then, thanks for correcting me.
 
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:01 pm
 You need to drop the / in your first [ quote ] PlatinumWeaver / Dean
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 by Alex on Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:06 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:You need to drop the / in your first [ quote ]
 Thanks for the tip.
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			 by Yedrup on Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:38 pm
 One of the really great things about this challenge is that it had me challenged for weeks. I was actually walking the streets and driving all over attempting to look at the world as a photographic opportunity.    I don't have any illusions of winning but if I did it would be a bonus, I think the way I have had to view what was happening around me has been a win.  I hope that whenever I go out with my camera I can see the activities of where I end up the way I was seeing it trying to find the decisive moment.
      Better get another coffee, system is weakening and getting maudlin.
          Cheers,
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			 by ozczecho on Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:51 pm
 Yedrup wrote:One of the really great things about this challenge is that it had me challenged for weeks. I was actually walking the streets and driving all over attempting to look at the world as a photographic opportunity.   
 Couldn't agree more, just ask my wife and kids     Thanks to all the organisers.... 
			
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 by Andoru on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:16 am
 Who took the picture of the kendo action by the way? That is my club. Just wondering who the D70 shooter is coz so far only 2 of us are Nikonians. 
			
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 by Nnnnsic on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:22 am
 Andoru wrote:Who took the picture of the kendo action by the way? That is my club. Just wondering who the D70 shooter is coz so far only 2 of us are Nikonians.
 SSSHHH!!!
 Not yet.
 Wait until it's over. 
			
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 by Geoff on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:55 am
 I must say I am looking forward to seeing images which people decided NOT to enter but were nearly worthy of entering...will be a great 'post mortem' opportunity to see the other potentials!   
			
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 by NetMagi on Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:19 am
 just voted on everything and I was amazed at how good some of the images were. . .
 
 good luck to all from up here in the states!
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 by birddog114 on Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:50 am
 Andoru wrote:Who took the picture of the kendo action by the way? That is my club. Just wondering who the D70 shooter is coz so far only 2 of us are Nikonians.
   I thought you did with some manipulation of your beloved F5 by add on the homemade digiback  Birddog114
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 by dooda on Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:28 am
 I just went in and voted on a couple.
 Does anyone find that many of them are photos for the themes sake and not for the photo's sake? Just wondering. I'm finding that many of the pictures fail to qualify as really good photos, while nevertheless being a moment decided?
 
			
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 by gstark on Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:35 am
 Dave,
 dooda wrote:I just went in and voted on a couple.
 Does anyone find that many of them are photos for the themes sake and not for the photo's sake? Just wondering. I'm finding that many of the pictures fail to qualify as really good photos, while nevertheless being a moment decided?
 Yes.g.Gary Stark
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 by sirhc55 on Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:59 am
 Personally, I believe that the interpretation of the theme is as individualistic as the theme itself    The decisive moment, as Cartier-Bresson tersely defined it, is ‘the simultaneous recognition, in a fraction of a second, of the significance of an event as well as the precise organization of forms which gives that event its proper expression."
 Bresson was not happy with the term decisive moment and preferred Images on the Run (literal translation of Images à la sauvette)  Chris--------------------------------
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:41 pm
 dooda wrote:I just went in and voted on a couple.
 Does anyone find that many of them are photos for the themes sake and not for the photo's sake? Just wondering. I'm finding that many of the pictures fail to qualify as really good photos, while nevertheless being a moment decided?
 I'm so  going to cry at the AW when you guys all make fun of my photo.
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 by rokkstar on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:43 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:I'm so  going to cry at the AW when you guys all make fun of my photo. Damn optimism and emotional investment..  
 Me too...
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:51 pm
 rokkstar wrote:PlatinumWeaver wrote:I'm so  going to cry at the AW when you guys all make fun of my photo. Damn optimism and emotional investment..  
 Me too... "And now let's look at the entries that didn't make the grade......Matt, this means you"  
 Hang on - Haven't you won one of these comps before?PlatinumWeaver / Dean
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 by rokkstar on Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:55 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:Hang on - Haven't you won one of these comps before?
 Yes I have, but that time I think I understood the theme   Matt 
			
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:00 pm
 This was a great theme to have just before the AW.. I've been slowly drifting away from the group as more and more people jump in, but this thread has me sitting on the site all the time..
 Now i'm really  looking forward to the AW..
 So who's up for a few pre-announcement drinks? Just to settle the nerves and act as a dissapointment buffer you understand    p.s. I need to stop suggesting drinks, people are going to think thats all I do.
 p.p.s. I just remembered the first meet at Mudder's place. I'm in good company!PlatinumWeaver / Dean
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 by Andoru on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:04 pm
 Birddog114 wrote:Andoru wrote:Who took the picture of the kendo action by the way? That is my club. Just wondering who the D70 shooter is coz so far only 2 of us are Nikonians.
   I thought you did with some manipulation of your beloved F5 by add on the homemade digiback  
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 by gstark on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:22 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:I'm so going to cry at the AW when you guys all make fun of my photo.
 Dean,
 We would never do that. Why should we wait until then?  g.Gary Stark
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 by gstark on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:25 pm
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:This was a great theme to have just before the AW.. I've been slowly drifting away from the group as more and more people jump in, but this thread has me sitting on the site all the time..
 It's called good management. Don't expect it to rear its ugly head too often.   So who's up for a few pre-announcement drinks? Just to settle the nerves and act as a dissapointment buffer you understand  
 But of course. We'll be there early to set up a few things, so anyone who wants to be there to help will be more than welcome. p.s. I need to stop suggesting drinks, people are going to think thats all I do.
 You mean there are other things to do???g.Gary Stark
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:26 pm
 gstark wrote:Dean, We would never do that. Why should we wait until then?  
 Hang on.. 
 Are you saying you're not going to make fun of me, or that the making fun of me will have begun before the meet    Just kidding around. Obviously we've got ourselves a very supportive community and no-one should not enter a comp because they feel they'll be put down, made fun of or dismissed by anyone here..PlatinumWeaver / Dean
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 by redline on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:28 pm
 i am just a little confused, is there a way that we can look at the voting scores for entires?
for some reason the voting instructions jpegs are'nt loading up either
 
			
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 by gstark on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:47 pm
 Dean,
 PlatinumWeaver wrote:gstark wrote:Dean, We would never do that. Why should we wait until then?  
 Hang on..  Are you saying you're not going to make fun of me, or that the making fun of me will have begun before the meet  
 Yes.   Just kidding around. Obviously we've got ourselves a very supportive community and no-one should not enter a comp because they feel they'll be put down, made fun of or dismissed by anyone here..
 And thank you for reminding us; it's a vitally important part of this community. It's great to have fun, but we won't do so at someone else's cost.g.Gary Stark
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 by gstark on Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:49 pm
 redline wrote:i am just a little confused, is there a way that we can look at the voting scores for entires?for some reason the voting instructions jpegs are'nt loading up either
 I can't help you with your second question, but the scores are closed to all but Scott (MHD). Nobody else has access to them  and even I won't see them until the Saturday evening of the AW.g.Gary Stark
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 by MHD on Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:39 pm
 Hmmm... I will check out the Jpegs... 
			
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 by MHD on Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:42 pm
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 by Nnnnsic on Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:05 pm
 gstark wrote:redline wrote:i am just a little confused, is there a way that we can look at the voting scores for entires?for some reason the voting instructions jpegs are'nt loading up either
 I can't help you with your second question, but the scores are closed to all but Scott (MHD). Nobody else has access to them  and even I won't see them until the Saturday evening of the AW.
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